Web Server Co-Location: Providing a Home on the Net
By Dana Greenlee, co-Host WebTalkGuys Radio
If your business has staked a claim on the Information Superhighway, then you know a
big decision was what type of web hosting plan to use for your web presence. Web hosting
options are on a continuum, with a variety of choices that are ideally suited to
organizations of different sizes, and at different levels of web site sophistication.
When it comes to companies offering hosting choices, Tacomas Optic Fusion, a
carrier-neutral co-location facility in the Perkins Building, runs the gamut from managed
services to hands-off rack space.
We
caught up with Rick Shanaman, President and CEO of Optic Fusion, to talk about the issues
in web hosting today, why connectivity prices may start to rise and the small businesses
trend to own their own servers.
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Q: Tell us about Optic Fusion and what makes your services different in the
marketplace.
Shanaman: Optic Fusion is in Tacoma, Washington. We are the only full-service
co-location data center in the South Puget Sound. We man our facility 24 hours a day, so
whenever you call on the phone, you always get a person. When you come down here day or
night or need assistance with anything in the co-location field, we have someone here to
help you.
The co-location connectivity field has been beat up pretty severely in the last year. When
we started this company a little over two years ago, we decided to look at a different
kind of model than was out there. We decided to offer a little more of a boutique shop
approach, specializing in providing good service, listening to our customers and designing
a program that works for their needs.
Q: How hands-on does a server owner have to be?
Shanaman: We have all kinds of customers here. For instance, we have the 1U or 2U
folks who just say, Hey, I need fractional T1 connectivity and I basically need to
be left alone. If there are any resets that need to be done, I can come do them
myself. Theyre strictly looking for price.
We also have customers who are looking for more service. They need tape backup, tape
rotation or swapping of cards. We provide all those services, too.
We even have a shared server with a number of websites and a mail server that we run for
companies who say We just want to outsource it all to one person who knows what
theyre doing. We dont want to have an IT person on staff, so we rely on you
guys to keep our website up and our mail server running. If we have a problem with a
connection, wed rather call you guys and have you bill us hourly.
We also have full-on suites and cabinets for folks that are more into the ISP and ASP end,
as well as some local companies that are run on point-to-point connections over the cities
$100 million fiber network - Click! Network.
Q: Do you see more small businesses getting their own little 1U or 2U servers to
operate their own websites?
Shanaman: I think its the same as its always been. When you reach a
critical mass where youre getting a lot of transactions or business on your website,
you need to make that step from a shared or leased server onto something you own. I
dont see a trend happening that way, other than a lot of people have equipment
theyre familiar and comfortable with that they want to use, therefore they want to
use their own servers.
Q: Is software an issue for you? Some people want to run Linux or certain kinds of
databases. Do you support that?
Shanaman: We dont ever touch your information. Were like a hotel or a
U-Rent storage place. You bring down whatever you want, whether its boxes of hammers or
containers with basketballs. We dont care. We just put it in its place. Same with
servers. We do offer troubleshooting services on the database end, but typically we
dont touch your data or connection. What we do is make sure you have plenty of power
coming to your location, that youre up all the time, that the generator is working
and that there is security and staff here to handle any of your physical problems.
Q: Have you seen bandwidth fees dropping over the past year and do you see that
continuing?
Shanaman: Ive seen the price drop as folks become more competitive.
Weve seen a number of companies that provide connectivity go out of business. So the
lack of competition has really stopped the price drop. I was reading an article the other
day saying weve seen the bottom of the bandwidth pricing.
Q: Now were going to see it climb?
Shanaman: Yes, because even though we have lots of fiber running around, so much
of it is not lit. Also, there is no more being added. We have lots of capacity now. But
remember, everybody is locked into these long-term deals, so as were adding more
people and capacity, were also not taking a lot of companies out of that pipeline.
So down the road were going to see another scenario where well see prices rise
because its just difficult to get connectivity.
Q: Will we see that in Tacoma?
Shanaman: Qwest, who is the major Telco provider here, is starting to see the
stretching of the limits of their network just for the simple fact that everybody wants
more phone and data lines. I think weve seen prices bottom out. I dont think
well see them drop much further. We may see some fire sales, but if youve
noticed the fire sales weve seen are companies that have announced that theyre
no longer going to be around.
Q: With Click! Network operating in Tacoma, have you seen a better price structure
based on a municipal entity owning a fiber optic network in the city?
Shanaman: As far as point-to-point connections within the city - absolutely. You
can access point-to-point at fairly reasonable prices. As far as connectivity outside the
city, that still remains an issue. Were working on a deal with AT&T to bring an
additional fiber into the city so that we can have additional pathways and connectivity
for the folks that come into our center. So its great within the city, but its
a struggle, like any other city is struggling with, to reach out and connect with the rest
of the world.
Q: Are your fiber connections wired up through the Weston Hotel in Seattle, which
is the major hub?
Shanaman: Yes, the Weston Building, which is the second tower behind the hotel -
everybody is fighting to get back to that place. We want to have as much availability as
we can there and we work closely with the folks at the Weston to develop diversity and
pathways for our companies.
Q: Are there any other direct connections from Optic Fusion to other hubs across
the country, like San Francisco or Portland?
Shanaman: Yes, were working on a scenario where we would run down through
Olympia to Portland. Basically, you have to build a business case for any kind of build
out these days. Thats the prudent way to do it. Actually, that was the prudent way
to do it five years ago, too! Weve got numbers, weve got specs, and we know
how to do it. Now we just need to put together the business case and go to the customers.
You know, this business is funny. The more you buy, the cheaper it gets.
Q: As you talk to customers, what are the core issues in terms of website hosting?
Shanaman: We have one division that just does hosting and we have just straight
co-location. With website hosting, we maintain that lower-priced product at
$25-$100/month. We dont want to compete with the folks that are in our co-location
running a dedicated server. Whats happening right now in the market is we have a lot
of folks planning for down the road. I think were going to see an echo
boom. We saw, of course, a huge boom of anyone with a business plan on a napkin
getting millions of dollars in funding and not worrying about turning a profit. Those days
are over. But we still have a lot of great ideas and business plans out there that are
starting to get funded again. These are the guys who are serious. Weve seen a lot of
guys who say, Scalability is what we want to do. We want to start off small. We
dont need to rent 2,000 square feet of co-location space and put one server in it.
We want to take a ½ cabinet, then have the opportunity to expand it into a cabinet, then
three cabinets and take on more as we grow. So were seeing how companies can
take a T1 and turn it up to a DS3 and so on. Its on demand, rather than Gee,
buy everything you need for the possible growth over the next five years. Those days
are over. Now everything is more manageable and scalable.
Q: Didnt you just acquire a web development company?
Shanaman: Wed been working with a company called Dynamics in Design.
Theyve been building websites for 4-5 years, specializing in the dentistry field. It
was just a good time to join forces. Wed both been referring business to each other,
so we decided to cut out swapping checks back and forth at the end of the month and we put
everything under one banner.
They specialize in the lower end. Theyll do updates for $25-$50, all the way up to
the full $5,000-$6,000 huge, interactive ecommerce site. They specialize in the
mom-and-pop websites, so to speak, providing them all the services so they can have their
website, email, search engine registrations, they get an update per month and they know
they can always get someone on the phone for tech support.
Q: Thats unique in the co-location space. Most dont get involved in
the content side.
Shanaman: Yes. We try to keep it as a totally separate business. We try to help
our customers out. If they need a point-to-point connection internally in the city and it
doesnt even involve our co-location center, we are more than happy to achieve that
at a highly competitive price.
More information on Optic Fusion is at their website at http://www.opticfusion.net.
~ WTG
(Dana Greenlee is producer and co-host of the WebTalkGuys Radio Show.
WebTalkGuys, a Seattle-based talk show featuring technology news and interviews. It is
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