The Future Of Social Networking Sites Like Orkut, Ryze, Friendster
A conversation with Lakewood technologist Mitch Ratcliffe about cyberspace relationships.
By Dana Greenlee, Co-Host WebTalkGuys Radio
I’m spending way too much time being a “social
networker.” Since I more or less exist in cyberspace for a
living, I figure making business and interest connections
virtually makes more sense than going to a local meeting that is
geographically-restricted to where I live.
Online social networks are webs of relationships that grow using
high-tech socially engineered Websites. These networking webs
grow from conversations among people who share personal
information and common interests, yet who differ in other ways
such as living halfway around the world.
My playing field of choice is the new Google affiliated
invitation only
Orkut.com. Both Orkut and I are new to social networking.
Orkut, the newest network, went live on January 22.
Within
the first 48 hours it was up, Orkut had 100,000 members – and
this is a network that grows by a personal invitation from
existing members. As stated on the site, this closed access
helps “…organically grow network of trusted friends. That way we
won’t grow too large, too quickly and everyone will have at
least one person to vouch for them.”
The social networking space is getting crowded with sites like
RYZE.com,
LinkedIn.com,
ZeroDegrees.com,
MeetUp.com,
Friendster.com,
Tickle.com,
Spoke.com,
Hipster.com,
Tribe.com
and even one called
DudeCheckThisOut.com. *
Technology
analyst Mitch Ratcliffe has studied social networks extensively.
He writes about the phenomenon on his Web log at
RatcliffeBlog.com and at his new position as the official
Red Herring blogger at
RedHerring.com.
We asked Mitch about this hot social networking trend, whether
they are valuable and will all of them survive or be snapped up
by the big online giants.
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Q: Social networking sites seem to be
thriving right now. What are your thoughts on whether they will
continue to grow?
Mitch: Internet services always do well when they’re not
charging anything.
Q: That’s right. Sites like MeetUp.com, Friendster.com and
Orkut.com are
all free right now.
Mitch: They deal with different kinds of services. Some of
them are about creating business networks online where I can
introduce somebody to someone else and say this is a good person
and you can trust them to at least take your call or answer your
e-mail. Some are oriented around getting people together in a
real space like MeetUp.com. The Friendster network is about
getting people together to go out and party.
Q: The real question is whether people are getting any real
value out of these online networks. Is there a business
connection or are they finding friends? Are the social networks
driving enough value for people to opt to pay a subscription fee
for them in the long run?
Mitch: Some of them may very well turn into real businesses.
The company Spoke.com is a business networking service. They
provide a free service to the world so they can deliver an
enterprise solution for companies who are paying a pretty
substantial amount of money to install and use internally to
manage business contacts.
Q: But are they viable?
Mitch: I was on the Board of Directors for
Match.com. For
the first couple of years you have actually no idea what is
going to work. You don’t know how often people are going to come
back. In that case, if people were dating, they didn’t need the
service anymore. Well, it turns out they would come back and
generally come back three or four times before they would not
come back for one reason or the other - and we were in never
sure why that was. However, the board meetings were interesting
because we started reporting success in terms of marriages and
number of babies produced!
Q: That’s probably an appropriate criteria for that kind of
site. What is going on with these networks right now? Even
Google is experimenting in this area.
Mitch: What’s happening right now is a lot of
experimentation amongst all these companies to see how much
people use this, what the size of the typical network grows to
and whether there is enough interaction between those networks
to drive a real business model.
There is a new social network site that just came up mid-January
called Orkut.com. It’s described as an affiliate of Google.
Google has an engineer named Orkut – that’s his first name,
which shows you parents shouldn’t name products. Orkut got so
much traffic when it started that it crashed. I’m seeing a lot
of people rushed into this space, just like every other social
network I’ve seen. These are the same people that have networks
of 200-300 friends already.
I don’t know if any one of these sites will be able to compete
without buying and consolidating all the other network services.
The problem with a social networking service is you can always
go somewhere else and start another network. Most of the
companies that are involved in this are going to have to do
something that is open source, that allows people to share this
information across networks, or no one of them are going to
become a viable place for people to stay.
Q: None of these places are generating any revenue off of
membership.
Mitch: That’s where the Google connection with Orkut.com
gets interesting, I think. If you look at the privacy
notification, it suggests that they can use personal information
about you outside of the Orkut framework but not outside of
their network. That means they can use it to target advertising
directed at you as an Orkut member – perhaps seeing Google
Adwords banners.
For instance, you’re on a site that has Google ads served to it
with ads related to what the site is about. But because they
know it’s you, they might be related to what you are interested
in. In Orkut, they ask what your political orientation is. It
might be a conservative site but because they know you are a
liberal, they would display adds to liberal publications or
books that criticize conservatives. That’s pretty valuable.
That’s a business.
Q: But none of the sites are doing any advertising.
Mitch: No, but that doesn’t mean they can’t. Everybody is
doing these experiments now to see whether or not and where the
business exists. I’m sure there is a business in connecting
networks of people. There is this funny little thing called the
Internet that proves that.
Q: What is the next evolution? Obviously, not all these
networks sites can survive. Will we see some level of
consolidation?
Mitch: The main backer of LinkedIn.com and the main backer
of Friendster.com got together and bought one of the key patents
in this space. Now you have two guys who own a third interest
that they share – and they are competing.
Consolidation is already starting to go on at the very genetic
level between all these sites. Information is shared through
protocols like “friend of a friend,” which is a standardized way
of expressing information about the relationships between users
on a site and OPML, which is a feed that allows you to track
what other people are reading – a sort of logging of blogging.
They are all going to compete to be the place that is the
aggregator of choice.
Of course you can have multiple aggregators of those kinds of
connections describing networks of people, but some of those
networks will start to stand out.
Then the question becomes if you’ll be able to go anywhere on
the Web and not have the service provider of the site that you
are on know who you are and everything about you. That’s where
it gets worrisome.
To read more of Mitch Ratcliffe’s views on technology, go to his
blog at
www.ratcliffeblog.com or read his uncredited blog at
www.redherring.com/RhResearchWeb/BlogHome.aspx.
* You’ll find a full list of social networking sites, organized
by category, at the Social Software Weblog at:
socialsoftware.weblogsinc.com/entry/2127913924623224.
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